there was george bush's eight. i think the other thing we have to really pay attention to here, richard, is the fact that the president has also made monumental strides of appointments of judges. the only two supreme court nominations he's had, he has apied two women. i think it's terribly unfortunate for us to look at isolated incidents rather than the total picture. >> if he not to pick yellin and goes with summers, you're fine with that? >> i don't have a personal opinion about who he picks. i think it's most important that he picks a person that works well with the overall obama administration and does their very best to advance policies that not only impact the overall american public, but also people of color and women. so whoever is best suited for that job, that is who should be put in that role. >> robert, how does the administration navigate a summers decision if they decide to go that ain wway? >> two things. one, miss yellin is very qualified to be the next fed chair. clearly she is the vice chair and u